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In his article, The Illusion of Objectivity, Arvin Hill points out:
"It would be easier to prove the existence of highly advanced non-human, trans-human or non-corporeal intelligent lifeforms than prove the existence of non-biased therapists or hypnosis specialists"I agree with this, but would like to make a clarification on my use of the term 'non-bias,' which may not need to be made, but here it is in case there is any confusion:
My statement:
"Shouldn’t the same results come from non-biased therapists and hypnosis specialists?"Might better have been illustrated with:
"shouldn’t the same results come from regression therapists who are not biased on the side of the extraterrestrial or abduction hypothesis."After all, everyone is likely biased about anything, to particular degrees.
It, of course, would be interesting to see how a certain past case would have turned out if the individual(s) had gone to a therapist who has little to no knowledge or interest in the ETH, but we're currently S.O.L. when it comes to peeking in on alternate timelines.
But in my opinion, any hypnotic regression practitioner can lead a patient (whether intentionally or not) onto their own particular path based on what they think is really happening. It's not just abduction regression that I find questionable or unreliable. It's all regressive hypnotherapy.
Arvin later comments:
"Is there an Association of Non-Biased Therapists and Hypnosis Specialists? I suppose I could just ask one. Hey, before plunking down my $130 for this regression - and, please be honest with me: Are you biased or non-biased?And so would I.
I'd bet everything on the answer."
11 comments:
Thanks for the mind food and clarification, Deirdre.
In my experience, the subject matter of extraterrestrial, intraterrestrial and noncorporeal intelligence is intrinsically prejudicial. I didn't really have an appreciation of this until after I plunged down the rabbit hole and started opening up to people about it.
I've often wondered whether hypnotherapists who don't swim in these particular shark-infested waters ever get surprised during a session to say, quit smoking or stop raiding the refrigerator. If you ever hear of any, or may have in the past, holla!
I don't foresee myself ever doing a regression, but even when I was tempted, I knew better than to seek out an abduction-obsessed therapist. After all, I live right in the thick of Karla Turner country.
Thinking about Bob Woodward really did give me a headache. I'm off to that nap now in hopes of sleeping it off. Adieu!
Arvin,
I was tempted to do regression myself when I was younger. It had been recommended to me again a few years ago, but I just didn't feel comfortable with the idea. I think, and more so in my younger years, that I was worried a therapist could control me or force me to reveal something I did not want to reveal.
At this point, I'd not be worried so much about some kind of malicious mind-control, but that afterwards, I would still end up questioning my own interpretation of events (or skewing them altogether), much like Strieber, to where you still have no real understanding of the enigma. Only that nagging question: "Was it all real, or was it a creation of my own conscious -- or a greater collective conscious?"
People are certainly experiencing something in many cases, but what is it, really? 10 years ago -- and maybe even 5, I would have said it was probably ET. These days, even ET seems almost too simple an explanation.
It would be easy to succumb to the drabness of a clinical explanation such as night-terrors and other hypnogogic occurrences, but wouldn't explain all of them -- particularly in situations where I wasn't the only one in the room witnessing the bizarre.
You said:
I've often wondered whether hypnotherapists who don't swim in these particular shark-infested waters ever get surprised during a session to say, quit smoking or stop raiding the refrigerator. If you ever hear of any, or may have in the past, holla!"
Interesting question. I do not know of any cases or stories like that, but there has to be at least a few out there somewhere.
Adieu!
My reservations about regression are virtually identical to yours. There are some very compelling reasons to believe 'the incident in question' falls well outside the realm of individual or collective conscious manifestation.
The more profound the experience, the more there is to doubt its validity afterward. That's my operating assumption, anyway. It's very counterintuitive.
I've had several fully conscious experiences during which I would think, and sometimes say, "This is so far beyond consensus reality, later on, I'll wonder later whether it even happened."
But if I keep yammerin' here, I'll be disinclined to write about it later on.
Before I shut up, though, I do want to make myself clear about the issue which prompted your original post.
The smear campaign against Emma Woods is absolutely abominable. Although I don't see it through the Down With The Patriarchy! lens expressed by others (mostly because I don't consider authoritarianism as an exclusive, or even predominant[ly] male construct), it nonetheless represents an egregious picture of the all-too-human agenda lurking behind the 'abduction' industry. I have tremendous admiration to Ms. Woods for the sacrifices she has made, and is making still, to shine a bright light in a very dark place. Those who continue to circle the wagons around David Jacobs - which, I have to say, this was entirely predictable - are terrified of having to adjust to a new model of 'alien' and human interaction.
I realize I'm opening myself up to the same types of histrionic attacks as are routinely issued to critics of the abduction paradigm, but since I consider those who take the most offense to be a bunch of gutless chickenshits, I don't really give a flying fuck.
And on that happy note, I'm off to write or draw or eat some chocolate. Hell, maybe all three.
Later, Tater. It's been a pleasure making your acquaintance. I'm looking forward to future conversations.
Having a rough, late work night - I'll get back to this tomorrow!
I'm so sleepy because it's after 3am, but I'm a therapist, a new one, and I look forward to taking my method of therapy to task. My favorite saying: "I don't get paid to judge."
...this was entirely predictable - are terrified of having to adjust to a new model of 'alien' and human interaction.
As a sufferer of sleep paralysis for decades, I can safely surmise that anything could be intentionally, or unintentionally be suggested while in an hypnotic regression state.
My twilight state tormentors have ranged from demons, succubi, ghosts to grays and never nice.
And while I'm not religious per se, I usually invoke the name of Christ to chase them away.
It's a cultural thing IMHO that determines the various incarnations.
There's no doubt in my mind if I were ever regressed, any number of these beings could appear.
~ dad
Arvin,
I rather liked this statement "it nonetheless represents an egregious picture of the all-too-human agenda lurking behind the 'abduction' industry".
I don't have really anything to add. I am pretty much inline with what you've said above.
And yes, when it comes to ufology, hardcore supporters of particular theories are often extremely reluctant to peak outside their little boxes. Having an unpopular opinion or criticism of beloved 'icons' is considered grounds for shit-slinging and dismissal. Fuck 'em.
@JSM
My bedtime is currently 12:30, down from 2:00am - a temporary change since I have to drive my gf to work way earlier than I care to get up.
I have a few favorite sayings, but none of them are probably relevant to therapy. Here's one anyway:
"A stitch in time, may, depending on the quality of that stitch and barring any unforeseen circumstances, save a number of additional stitches needed at a later time."
It just rolls off the tongue!
@Dad
Hi!
"It's a cultural thing IMHO that determines the various incarnations."
Do you mean that these scenarios, in a culture oblivious to the abduction phenomenon, may manifest differently according to their beliefs and mythological bogeymen? I think that's what you were saying, anyway.
It would be very interesting (of course) that if the phenomenon were 'real' in the common sense, if those executing the abductions mask themselves according to an individual's cultural idea of scary or evil entities.
Do you mean that these scenarios, in a culture oblivious to the abduction phenomenon, may manifest differently according to their beliefs and mythological bogeymen? I think that's what you were saying, anyway.
Yup, exactomundo as the Fonz would say! ;)
If you study the phenomenon, world-wide, especially in Japan, the twilight creature emerges as a young or old woman who sits upon the victim's chest, restricting the breathing.
Recently I read of a woman who saw demons with melting faces helplessly watching them trying to pick her up and carry her through a wall! Sounds like a classic abduction scenario, does it not?
When we're in a twilight state, quite possibly we're seeing a door open to other realities and these beings take forms our brains can interpret according to our cultural archetypes.
That doesn't mean these creatures are showing us their real forms, quite possibly they have no discernible form what-so-ever in their home dimension.
That's why hyno-regression therapy is bogus, it is fraught with cultural bias.
I read it once. I read it twice. My tongue hates you. Stitch this!
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